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	<title>Comments on: Gender Iconography &amp; Transformations in Korean Pop Culture: What Can We Learn From Japanese Women&#8217;s SF?</title>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 

Well, anyone who constantly depends on a single school of thought isn&#039;t thinking hard enough. 

Noah Body, 

Thanks for the clarifications. Wow, they literally called it &quot;스몰 카지노호텔&quot;...  I&#039;d have expected something a little more flowery than that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>Well, anyone who constantly depends on a single school of thought isn&#8217;t thinking hard enough. </p>
<p>Noah Body, </p>
<p>Thanks for the clarifications. Wow, they literally called it &#8220;스몰 카지노호텔&#8221;&#8230;  I&#8217;d have expected something a little more flowery than that!</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Body</title>
		<link>http://www.gordsellar.com/2008/07/10/3721/comment-page-1/#comment-31919</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Body</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Yaoi numbers came from last years 만화산업백서, published by KOCCA. I think a new version was just published. 

Kangwon Land history is here:
http://www.kangwonland.com/Management/History.asp
The &quot;Small&quot; hotel and casino opened before the main hotel and casino. I remember it was open just a couple of months before the newspapers were running stories about these sad sack adults and grandparents who gambled away their family&#039;s money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Yaoi numbers came from last years 만화산업백서, published by KOCCA. I think a new version was just published. </p>
<p>Kangwon Land history is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.kangwonland.com/Management/History.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.kangwonland.com/Management/History.asp</a><br />
The &#8220;Small&#8221; hotel and casino opened before the main hotel and casino. I remember it was open just a couple of months before the newspapers were running stories about these sad sack adults and grandparents who gambled away their family&#8217;s money.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.gordsellar.com/2008/07/10/3721/comment-page-1/#comment-31887</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another quick nota bene - I don&#039;t question the value of studying older works of fiction per se. In fact, I like to mine the back catalog more than you would suspect from my comments on your website and the posts on my blog. I just question the utility of studying older works if a literary critic is consistently applying or using any one of a number of Po Mo schools of thought with a more &quot;reductive&quot; reading of literary texts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another quick nota bene &#8211; I don&#8217;t question the value of studying older works of fiction per se. In fact, I like to mine the back catalog more than you would suspect from my comments on your website and the posts on my blog. I just question the utility of studying older works if a literary critic is consistently applying or using any one of a number of Po Mo schools of thought with a more &#8220;reductive&#8221; reading of literary texts.</p>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
		<link>http://www.gordsellar.com/2008/07/10/3721/comment-page-1/#comment-31886</link>
		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah, 

Thanks!

Actually, from what I can find, they broke ground on Kangwon Land before the turn of the century (I love saying that for 1999/2000!), but only opened the casino in 2003. I could be wrong, but that&#039;s what it seems to say &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldstonex.com/en/infoitem.asp?icat=2&amp;articleid=336&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, among all the effusive praise. (And there was a neat-looking discussion of casinos -- Korean &amp; foreigner-oriented (Kwangwon Land being the only one then) vs. foreigner-only (there were thirteen) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/glr.2005.9.144?journalCode=glr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for which Google had a sentence cached saying the same, but I can&#039;t access the article.)

And for all that, controls on (casino) gambling here are still massive, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentId=163640&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the industry is still considered as &quot;for foreigners.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Though, oddly enough, maybe for a reason I never thought of: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentId=163448&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to prevent money laundering.&lt;/a&gt; Now I feel na&#239;ve. 

Thanks for the recommendation on the ALPHA CAFE... I&#039;ll add it to the list of things to check out. Do you happen to have a source for the info on Yaoi comics in Korea? I&#039;d be interested in reading more! Even a print source would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah, </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Actually, from what I can find, they broke ground on Kangwon Land before the turn of the century (I love saying that for 1999/2000!), but only opened the casino in 2003. I could be wrong, but that&#8217;s what it seems to say <a href="http://www.worldstonex.com/en/infoitem.asp?icat=2&#038;articleid=336" rel="nofollow">here</a>, among all the effusive praise. (And there was a neat-looking discussion of casinos &#8212; Korean &#038; foreigner-oriented (Kwangwon Land being the only one then) vs. foreigner-only (there were thirteen) <a href="http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/glr.2005.9.144?journalCode=glr" rel="nofollow">here</a> for which Google had a sentence cached saying the same, but I can&#8217;t access the article.)</p>
<p>And for all that, controls on (casino) gambling here are still massive, and <a href="http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentId=163640" rel="nofollow">the industry is still considered as &#8220;for foreigners.&#8221;</a> Though, oddly enough, maybe for a reason I never thought of: <a href="http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentId=163448" rel="nofollow">to prevent money laundering.</a> Now I feel na&iuml;ve. </p>
<p>Thanks for the recommendation on the ALPHA CAFE&#8230; I&#8217;ll add it to the list of things to check out. Do you happen to have a source for the info on Yaoi comics in Korea? I&#8217;d be interested in reading more! Even a print source would do.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Body</title>
		<link>http://www.gordsellar.com/2008/07/10/3721/comment-page-1/#comment-31883</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Body</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Gord. Some quick points:
- Gangwon Land, the casino for Koreans, opened in 2000 (iirc).
- Yaoi comic books represented 7% of the Korean comic market in 2005. Up from 2% in 2001.
- The best female Japanese science fiction I know of is the comic book ALPHA CAFE. You can find scanlations of it here:
http://www.cafealpha.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Gord. Some quick points:<br />
- Gangwon Land, the casino for Koreans, opened in 2000 (iirc).<br />
- Yaoi comic books represented 7% of the Korean comic market in 2005. Up from 2% in 2001.<br />
- The best female Japanese science fiction I know of is the comic book ALPHA CAFE. You can find scanlations of it here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cafealpha.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cafealpha.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, god, yes, they do. When I was a student, I often expressed the same opinion. Most of my profs also endeavoured to speak like smart -- but not ivory-tower-imprisoned -- people, and most of them were great, but even so, some of their writing was, uh, well... Mostly, I think this is because LitCrit got seduced by PostModernism and its spinoff disciplines, and forgot to, you know, bother with readability or reality checks. Deconstruction is fine, but for the love of all that&#039;s pointful, why not be readable and try to talk about the world? 

Oh, there&#039;s a guy who did a presentation on Hitchcock&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Birds&lt;/i&gt; who took an hour (and tons of bird puns, and tons of unparseable language) to basically say something like, &quot;I figure there&#039;s something going on about anxiety, especially anxiety about sexuality in cultural transition, and nonreproductive sex, in that flick.&quot; I was ready to throw a frozen chicken at the guy by the end. So much PoMo is like that: the big reveal is usually, &quot;People hide their racism in sneaky ways,&quot; or &quot;Our ideas about women&#039;s work are still kinda unfair and fucked up even now.&quot; Except with big hard words. 

Tangential, though, I hope, to the majority of what I&#039;ve written here, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, god, yes, they do. When I was a student, I often expressed the same opinion. Most of my profs also endeavoured to speak like smart &#8212; but not ivory-tower-imprisoned &#8212; people, and most of them were great, but even so, some of their writing was, uh, well&#8230; Mostly, I think this is because LitCrit got seduced by PostModernism and its spinoff disciplines, and forgot to, you know, bother with readability or reality checks. Deconstruction is fine, but for the love of all that&#8217;s pointful, why not be readable and try to talk about the world? </p>
<p>Oh, there&#8217;s a guy who did a presentation on Hitchcock&#8217;s <i>The Birds</i> who took an hour (and tons of bird puns, and tons of unparseable language) to basically say something like, &#8220;I figure there&#8217;s something going on about anxiety, especially anxiety about sexuality in cultural transition, and nonreproductive sex, in that flick.&#8221; I was ready to throw a frozen chicken at the guy by the end. So much PoMo is like that: the big reveal is usually, &#8220;People hide their racism in sneaky ways,&#8221; or &#8220;Our ideas about women&#8217;s work are still kinda unfair and fucked up even now.&#8221; Except with big hard words. </p>
<p>Tangential, though, I hope, to the majority of what I&#8217;ve written here, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.gordsellar.com/2008/07/10/3721/comment-page-1/#comment-31873</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nota Bene: Nearly all the profs I had were great, but it was noted by someone else in pre-masters class, that a lot of the leading lit crit people sound like really blinkered freaks. It was funny, because everyone else pretty much felt the same way at that point. I&#039;ve read a couple of articles since then that speak to the same point, from different points of view, that say pretty much thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nota Bene: Nearly all the profs I had were great, but it was noted by someone else in pre-masters class, that a lot of the leading lit crit people sound like really blinkered freaks. It was funny, because everyone else pretty much felt the same way at that point. I&#8217;ve read a couple of articles since then that speak to the same point, from different points of view, that say pretty much thing.</p>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark. 

Yeah. It&#039;s a different case in Korea than the young professionals in the US, as I&#039;ve said. 

As for the critical discussion of old films, well, it genuinely interests me, so that&#039;s why I talk about it. I don&#039;t know about your profs. Why &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; talk about it, since it&#039;s a part of our shared culture and since its roots still express themselves in popular culture today? (Jim Crow and Zip Coon, two popular figures in blackface minstrel shows, are arguably still current icons being used in marketing hip-hop music today, and similarly, blackface minstrel tropes can be detected in modern entertainment, just a little more submerged.) 

Anyway, since King Kong is a minor example that I&#039;m using to contextualize a whole new set of tropes I think we can see in *Korean* pop culture. Seeing them in American culture helps one to see them in Korean culture, as well as to point out that I&#039;m not one-sidedly accusing Koreans of doing something we never did ourselves. (We did it aplenty, in terms of race-transformations; race-transformation was a solid, core component of our popular culture in the US, parts of Canada, and Britain  for a long, long time.)

By the way, I don&#039;t think everyone in the past was a sexist, racist, bigoted jackass, not even by our standards. Not everyone in the past accepted slavery, either. There were ancient Greeks who called it an abomination. Most people, maybe, but not everyone. The question of why and how certain kinds of depictions &quot;work&quot; in certain cultures is fascinating nonetheless -- why Western whites got off on what seem to me grotesque blackface minstrel shows fascinates me as much why Koreans seem to have a thing for feminized male pop stars. (And for whites-as-bad-guys that sometimes seem to be surrogate Korean males.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark. </p>
<p>Yeah. It&#8217;s a different case in Korea than the young professionals in the US, as I&#8217;ve said. </p>
<p>As for the critical discussion of old films, well, it genuinely interests me, so that&#8217;s why I talk about it. I don&#8217;t know about your profs. Why <i>not</i> talk about it, since it&#8217;s a part of our shared culture and since its roots still express themselves in popular culture today? (Jim Crow and Zip Coon, two popular figures in blackface minstrel shows, are arguably still current icons being used in marketing hip-hop music today, and similarly, blackface minstrel tropes can be detected in modern entertainment, just a little more submerged.) </p>
<p>Anyway, since King Kong is a minor example that I&#8217;m using to contextualize a whole new set of tropes I think we can see in *Korean* pop culture. Seeing them in American culture helps one to see them in Korean culture, as well as to point out that I&#8217;m not one-sidedly accusing Koreans of doing something we never did ourselves. (We did it aplenty, in terms of race-transformations; race-transformation was a solid, core component of our popular culture in the US, parts of Canada, and Britain  for a long, long time.)</p>
<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t think everyone in the past was a sexist, racist, bigoted jackass, not even by our standards. Not everyone in the past accepted slavery, either. There were ancient Greeks who called it an abomination. Most people, maybe, but not everyone. The question of why and how certain kinds of depictions &#8220;work&#8221; in certain cultures is fascinating nonetheless &#8212; why Western whites got off on what seem to me grotesque blackface minstrel shows fascinates me as much why Koreans seem to have a thing for feminized male pop stars. (And for whites-as-bad-guys that sometimes seem to be surrogate Korean males.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.gordsellar.com/2008/07/10/3721/comment-page-1/#comment-31871</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pink might not have take the wardrobes of Western men by storm, but pink dress shirts (and polo shirts) have been acceptable men&#039;s wear, at least among Europeans and professionals along the East and West coasts of the continental USA for a long time. Baby blue, at least in dress shirts, is also an acceptable alternative that goes back a long way. It&#039;s not quite as abberant as you might think, although the Koreans do seem to be taking it to extremes. You&#039;d see guys in Japan running around like that, but it tends to stop when they get out of college.

I&#039;m still not quite sold on the King Kong idea, but what I&#039;m about to say pertains to my University experience, and not anything said on this thread. At first blush it looks like the &quot;Aren&#039;t we so much more enlightened than the people who made this film, book, poem, or painting&quot; school of criticism, which while I guess is valid, leads to diminishing returns after awhile. I mean if everyone in the past was a sexist, racist jackass, what&#039;s the point of studying all this old stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pink might not have take the wardrobes of Western men by storm, but pink dress shirts (and polo shirts) have been acceptable men&#8217;s wear, at least among Europeans and professionals along the East and West coasts of the continental USA for a long time. Baby blue, at least in dress shirts, is also an acceptable alternative that goes back a long way. It&#8217;s not quite as abberant as you might think, although the Koreans do seem to be taking it to extremes. You&#8217;d see guys in Japan running around like that, but it tends to stop when they get out of college.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not quite sold on the King Kong idea, but what I&#8217;m about to say pertains to my University experience, and not anything said on this thread. At first blush it looks like the &#8220;Aren&#8217;t we so much more enlightened than the people who made this film, book, poem, or painting&#8221; school of criticism, which while I guess is valid, leads to diminishing returns after awhile. I mean if everyone in the past was a sexist, racist jackass, what&#8217;s the point of studying all this old stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 

You&#039;re gay! (Just kidding.)

But the pink shirts aren&#039;t just &lt;i&gt;accepted&lt;/i&gt; here. They&#039;re almost &lt;i&gt;de rigeur&lt;/i&gt;, and it&#039;s odd because that&#039;s a variation on the Western fashion that Koreans have essentially adopted here (through a Japanese filter, I suspect). I assume this wasn&#039;t the case when you were here, though I&#039;m curious whether it was in Japan. 

It&#039;s so prevalent here now that even newcomers (who left North America after this newfangled metrosexuality hit the mainstream, to whatever degree it actually did) comment on it with great regularity, as in, &quot;What&#039;s up with all the guys in the pink shirts?&quot; 

Maybe it&#039;s also the shades used: bright, or even hot, pink shirts. Sometimes with pictures of teddy bears on the front, sometimes, including logos with &lt;a href=&quot;http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1065589391039587060PywZzn&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the bear statue in this picture&lt;/a&gt;, hat turned to the side (on the bear) like a little boy and all, though those shirts are baby blue. (Infantilizing, not feminizing, really.) Or cute little leather epaulets, or frill on their sweaters or... well, just plain feminine styled clothes, pink or otherwise. Sometimes combined with other accoutrements that &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; shout anything about having masculinity to burn, like, er, heavy eye makeup, or gigantic murses or enormous Louis Vuitton wallets that match their girlfriends&#039; purses but which no average Western man would consider a man&#039;s wallet (you know, the long type of &quot;wallet&quot; made for keeping in a purse?), or girly sunglasses, or... 

Well, anyway, pale pink dress shirts  on a lacrosse player this is not. I guess all those pictures didn&#039;t get it across. (Though there is a paucity of pink in the pics, I admit.)

But in any case, I&#039;m not &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; dissing. It&#039;s cool, they can wear whatever they want. But I do wonder &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; Korean society has adapted Western clothing in this way, specifically applying so much of what seems, in the original source, to be characteristic of feminine fashion to men&#039;s clothing. Especially in a society that, a generation or two back, this kind of unisex or androgynous fashion was uheard of. And, further, why androgynous fashion, coinciding with an ongoing massive shift in gender roles (women moving into the workforce and so on) in Korea results in a more feminine version of androgyny, whereas in Western society androgyny or unisex-styled clothing seemed to consist of women donning traditionally more &quot;male&quot; fashions and men and women alike more commonly shunning feminine colors like pink and red and pastels, for darker hues, blacks and greys and whatever. (Your investment bankers aside, because I still doubt pink has taken Western men&#039;s wardrobes by storm in anywhere near the way it has those of Korean.)  I wonder to what degree the filter of Japanese fashion plays into it. I wonder to what degree aesthetics tramsitted in Japanese pop culture play into it. It seems like it might be more than anyone I know has suggested. I think it&#039;s worth trying to puzzle it all out.

As for &lt;i&gt;King Kong&lt;/i&gt;, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gordsellar.com/2007/11/08/recent-readings-stuff-late-august-september-october-07/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my post about it here&lt;/a&gt; (see also Stephanie&#039;s comment there...). Anyway, it&#039;s not just me. It&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; widely discussed subtext of the film, and it makes a lot of sense when you think about the vast popularity of blackface minstrelsy in film (and live performances), and the (relatively) contemporary popularity of films like &lt;i&gt;Birth of a Nation&lt;/i&gt;, part two of which tells a very similar story to Kong, with the &quot;black&quot; villain played by an white actor in blackface, as opposed to a black ape suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>You&#8217;re gay! (Just kidding.)</p>
<p>But the pink shirts aren&#8217;t just <i>accepted</i> here. They&#8217;re almost <i>de rigeur</i>, and it&#8217;s odd because that&#8217;s a variation on the Western fashion that Koreans have essentially adopted here (through a Japanese filter, I suspect). I assume this wasn&#8217;t the case when you were here, though I&#8217;m curious whether it was in Japan. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so prevalent here now that even newcomers (who left North America after this newfangled metrosexuality hit the mainstream, to whatever degree it actually did) comment on it with great regularity, as in, &#8220;What&#8217;s up with all the guys in the pink shirts?&#8221; </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s also the shades used: bright, or even hot, pink shirts. Sometimes with pictures of teddy bears on the front, sometimes, including logos with <a href="http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1065589391039587060PywZzn" rel="nofollow">the bear statue in this picture</a>, hat turned to the side (on the bear) like a little boy and all, though those shirts are baby blue. (Infantilizing, not feminizing, really.) Or cute little leather epaulets, or frill on their sweaters or&#8230; well, just plain feminine styled clothes, pink or otherwise. Sometimes combined with other accoutrements that <i>don&#8217;t</i> shout anything about having masculinity to burn, like, er, heavy eye makeup, or gigantic murses or enormous Louis Vuitton wallets that match their girlfriends&#8217; purses but which no average Western man would consider a man&#8217;s wallet (you know, the long type of &#8220;wallet&#8221; made for keeping in a purse?), or girly sunglasses, or&#8230; </p>
<p>Well, anyway, pale pink dress shirts  on a lacrosse player this is not. I guess all those pictures didn&#8217;t get it across. (Though there is a paucity of pink in the pics, I admit.)</p>
<p>But in any case, I&#8217;m not <i>really</i> dissing. It&#8217;s cool, they can wear whatever they want. But I do wonder <i>why</i> Korean society has adapted Western clothing in this way, specifically applying so much of what seems, in the original source, to be characteristic of feminine fashion to men&#8217;s clothing. Especially in a society that, a generation or two back, this kind of unisex or androgynous fashion was uheard of. And, further, why androgynous fashion, coinciding with an ongoing massive shift in gender roles (women moving into the workforce and so on) in Korea results in a more feminine version of androgyny, whereas in Western society androgyny or unisex-styled clothing seemed to consist of women donning traditionally more &#8220;male&#8221; fashions and men and women alike more commonly shunning feminine colors like pink and red and pastels, for darker hues, blacks and greys and whatever. (Your investment bankers aside, because I still doubt pink has taken Western men&#8217;s wardrobes by storm in anywhere near the way it has those of Korean.)  I wonder to what degree the filter of Japanese fashion plays into it. I wonder to what degree aesthetics tramsitted in Japanese pop culture play into it. It seems like it might be more than anyone I know has suggested. I think it&#8217;s worth trying to puzzle it all out.</p>
<p>As for <i>King Kong</i>, see <a href="http://www.gordsellar.com/2007/11/08/recent-readings-stuff-late-august-september-october-07/" rel="nofollow">my post about it here</a> (see also Stephanie&#8217;s comment there&#8230;). Anyway, it&#8217;s not just me. It&#8217;s a <i>very</i> widely discussed subtext of the film, and it makes a lot of sense when you think about the vast popularity of blackface minstrelsy in film (and live performances), and the (relatively) contemporary popularity of films like <i>Birth of a Nation</i>, part two of which tells a very similar story to Kong, with the &#8220;black&#8221; villain played by an white actor in blackface, as opposed to a black ape suit.</p>
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		<description>What&#039;s up with dissing men who wear pink shirts? Unless you are a member (former or present) of the USMC, or mine coal in West Virginia there are fewer people on earth who more testosterone than lacrosse playing preps who go into investment banking. They will wear pink polo shirts and dress shirts, and nobody in their right mind would cast doubt on their heterosexuality. Full disclosure: one of my favorite dress shirts is pink. I now associate the color with &quot;f@ck you, I have masculinity to burn&quot;.

I&#039;m as big a fan of sub-text as anyone, but what makes you think King Kong is a racist stereotype?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up with dissing men who wear pink shirts? Unless you are a member (former or present) of the USMC, or mine coal in West Virginia there are fewer people on earth who more testosterone than lacrosse playing preps who go into investment banking. They will wear pink polo shirts and dress shirts, and nobody in their right mind would cast doubt on their heterosexuality. Full disclosure: one of my favorite dress shirts is pink. I now associate the color with &#8220;f<a href="http://twitter.com/ck">@ck</a> you, I have masculinity to burn&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m as big a fan of sub-text as anyone, but what makes you think King Kong is a racist stereotype?</p>
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