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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
		<link>http://www.gordsellar.com/2010/02/14/im-teaching-what/comment-page-1/#comment-35200</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Junsok, 

Yup, knowing something and teaching it are quite different things. And your observation about making more money that way reminds me of a professor of mine from undergrad -- the guy who probably impressed me the most from the English Lit Department, so that I eventually expanded my field of studies to include literature -- ended up quitting teaching to run a cinema in a small town, and do magic shows on the side. 

I like that idea: I don&#039;t know about doing a whole book for foreign businessmen on Korean business culture, but a few class discussions worth of that might be a great exercise. (And since I work with a wider definition of literature than the old guard -- literary texts are the only sort of thing we can look at under that rubric -- it&#039;s definitely something we could fit into a bigger discussion of business culture, etc.)

(Though, I should add, I don&#039;t really intend on keeping the focus as narrow as the course title suggests; with other courses that are silly-focused, I make them academic or otherwise a creative stretch for the students when I&#039;m teaching them. Which doesn&#039;t suit everyone, but then, neither does the traditional sitting-through-lectures model of learning.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junsok, </p>
<p>Yup, knowing something and teaching it are quite different things. And your observation about making more money that way reminds me of a professor of mine from undergrad &#8212; the guy who probably impressed me the most from the English Lit Department, so that I eventually expanded my field of studies to include literature &#8212; ended up quitting teaching to run a cinema in a small town, and do magic shows on the side. </p>
<p>I like that idea: I don&#8217;t know about doing a whole book for foreign businessmen on Korean business culture, but a few class discussions worth of that might be a great exercise. (And since I work with a wider definition of literature than the old guard &#8212; literary texts are the only sort of thing we can look at under that rubric &#8212; it&#8217;s definitely something we could fit into a bigger discussion of business culture, etc.)</p>
<p>(Though, I should add, I don&#8217;t really intend on keeping the focus as narrow as the course title suggests; with other courses that are silly-focused, I make them academic or otherwise a creative stretch for the students when I&#8217;m teaching them. Which doesn&#8217;t suit everyone, but then, neither does the traditional sitting-through-lectures model of learning.)</p>
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		<title>By: Junsok Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junsok Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember I had to teach business english, because no one else could teach it, but (as you probably know) knowing English and teaching it can be two completely different things.  I also remember thinking that if I quit the university and taught English privately, I could make probably twice the money that the university was paying me at the time, so why am I doing this?

(And as for these &#039;useful&#039; courses, and why they teach them in universities ... well, I could go on for pages bitching about them, but it won&#039;t do any good, and I don&#039;t want to leave a written record that they could use to incriminate me later... :)  )

Anyhow, a neat way to approach this subject may be to take a book on &quot;Korean business culture&quot; written for foreign businessmen in Korea, examine the advice they give, and then talk about why foreign businessmen need to take that advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember I had to teach business english, because no one else could teach it, but (as you probably know) knowing English and teaching it can be two completely different things.  I also remember thinking that if I quit the university and taught English privately, I could make probably twice the money that the university was paying me at the time, so why am I doing this?</p>
<p>(And as for these &#8216;useful&#8217; courses, and why they teach them in universities &#8230; well, I could go on for pages bitching about them, but it won&#8217;t do any good, and I don&#8217;t want to leave a written record that they could use to incriminate me later&#8230; :)  )</p>
<p>Anyhow, a neat way to approach this subject may be to take a book on &#8220;Korean business culture&#8221; written for foreign businessmen in Korea, examine the advice they give, and then talk about why foreign businessmen need to take that advice.</p>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, 

Well, yeah, but that&#039;s the thing: they&#039;re probably English Lit majors and majors in my own department, not business majors. The course isn&#039;t for business majors: the assumption is that English majors are going to go out and get salaryman/salarywoman jobs, near as I can reckon. 

Anyway, I am thinking along the lines you&#039;re thinking, and which a friend suggested on the Livejournal mirror of this post. She also recommended Glengarry Glen Ross (which I&#039;ve not seen, though I understand &lt;em&gt;Boiler Room&lt;/em&gt; refers to it several times.) The Office: good call. Also, The Corporation, maybe something on Union Carbide? Maybe the documentary I saw on the couple who took on McDonald&#039;s in Britain? (They were sued for criticizing in print the misleading info in McDonald&#039;s info sheets/ads/etc.)

So, yeah, there is some idea taking form for me, in what I can do with this class in a constructive sense. And it&#039;s even credible: we could compare the response to scandals between cultures, like the fallout of the garbage mandu scandal and some comparable scandal in the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, </p>
<p>Well, yeah, but that&#8217;s the thing: they&#8217;re probably English Lit majors and majors in my own department, not business majors. The course isn&#8217;t for business majors: the assumption is that English majors are going to go out and get salaryman/salarywoman jobs, near as I can reckon. </p>
<p>Anyway, I am thinking along the lines you&#8217;re thinking, and which a friend suggested on the Livejournal mirror of this post. She also recommended Glengarry Glen Ross (which I&#8217;ve not seen, though I understand <em>Boiler Room</em> refers to it several times.) The Office: good call. Also, The Corporation, maybe something on Union Carbide? Maybe the documentary I saw on the couple who took on McDonald&#8217;s in Britain? (They were sued for criticizing in print the misleading info in McDonald&#8217;s info sheets/ads/etc.)</p>
<p>So, yeah, there is some idea taking form for me, in what I can do with this class in a constructive sense. And it&#8217;s even credible: we could compare the response to scandals between cultures, like the fallout of the garbage mandu scandal and some comparable scandal in the West.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 01:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same away about business culture as you do, and for that reason alone I would love to take the course. 

I&#039;d bring in former students who have joined the business world (especially women), and have them share their horror stories. I&#039;d discuss the &#039;MT&#039; experience for new employees in major corporations and compare it to the brainwashing techniques of cults. I&#039;d show select episodes of &#039;The Office&#039;, some scenes from Glengarry Glen Ross&#039; and so on. 

I would then judge my success by the number of students who drop their business majors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same away about business culture as you do, and for that reason alone I would love to take the course. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d bring in former students who have joined the business world (especially women), and have them share their horror stories. I&#8217;d discuss the &#8216;MT&#8217; experience for new employees in major corporations and compare it to the brainwashing techniques of cults. I&#8217;d show select episodes of &#8216;The Office&#8217;, some scenes from Glengarry Glen Ross&#8217; and so on. </p>
<p>I would then judge my success by the number of students who drop their business majors.</p>
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